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  Where in the bible does it say that the governments will turn on the religions. Like the Dubs always say this will happen

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  i have not been here in a while, just trying to move on with my life all the while dealing with a very pimi brainwashed wife.. so the other day she started saying that we will have to go our own ways when things get worse with this world.

  she has said this before because she believes that the government will turn on religion and the great and powerful wizards (guardians of doctrine g.o.d.

  ) will call everyone and tell them where to go.. thank god, (no pun intended) i have been out of the loop for such a long time.

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  days of future passed

  Well it may not be scriptures that will dissuade her from following the GB.

  I believed like all JW's that false religion falls first, then the "true" religion is left standing, only to be attacked. But god is supposed to step in and save most of his true followers. But if you read Daniel, in each prophecy, "true" religion is attacked first. Those parts tie in with the "two witnesses" in Rev 11:7. Those "two witnesses" are killed by "the beast that ascends out of the abyss" The WT says that happened in 1916-1919. But WT also says that the beast from the abyss is none other than the UN - which didn't come out of the abyss until around 1940's (?) This won't mean anything to her I'm sure. Sorry.
  
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  Where to go for the 'Deep Things'?

  by cobweb in

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  as someone who has been out a while, i wondered what publications a jw would turn to now if they want to do serious bible research.

  are there any meaty jw publications left?

  i haven't heard of the insight books being revised.

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  days of future passed

  Thanks Cobweb for posting that selection of 1984. I've read Animal Farm but haven't been inclined to read 1984.

  Having grown up in the WT, I've been dragged to assemblies all my life. They used to have hours of talks, discussing Revelation, the Trinity, what will happen in the future - all with countless scriptures to be looked up.

  10 (?) years ago or so, they started doing 2 day assemblies that revolved around, God Loves you, Don't beat yourself up over Past Sins - not a lot of meat, but some kind of feel good stuff. I felt relieved in a way but not really. I noticed that the amount of scripture references had gone down.

  Strangely tho, about that time or a little later, the WT we studied, become grandiose in vocabulary. There was a proliferation of words that many had to look up in the dictionary. (if they even had time to) This didn't go without notice and some complained about it, while others, incorporated them into their comments. Even going as far as to add several more into their answers so that 4 or 5 large words were the main construct of a sentence. One brother continued to do that in all the meetings, making people laugh after his comments and shake their heads. I thought at the time "Jesus would never talk like this to people"

  Nowdays, people are "happified" or should I say "Stultified?"

  I do think JW's are happy that there is less to read and think about. They've already heard the GB Stewardesses instructions on how to safely fly into the new order a few hundred thousand times. They are good to go so why worry about the small details.
  
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  Death of a last Grandparent

  by ScottyRex in

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  still read this forum from time to time, and a long time member originally since early 2000's.

  recently lost my last surviving grandparent, my great and wonderful nan.

  what a flood of emotions that released!

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  days of future passed

  Sounds like Nan was a best friend kind of Grandma. You don't always find that in families so it's a great treasure that you have in memories.
  
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  Rock band titles from JW history / culture

  by sir82 in

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  on another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.

  green bible dinosaurs.

  jezebel and the fornicators.

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  The Ten Virgins

  David and the Throwing Stones

  Korah's Rebels

  Talking Snakes

  White Wash the Graves

  Deadman Rising

  Vomit loving Dogs (yeah kind of icky)

  Ment L GB Dis Eased
  
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  Fasten Your Seatbelts - The Crazy Has Started (Also, bring the Koolaid)

  by berrygerry in

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  from facebook:just saw my jw mother after not seeing her for more than 2 years.

  when i do see her, it is brief, she never asks about my life, doesn't ask about my 4 children her grandchildren, doesn't ask about my grandchildren...her great grandchildren, she doesn't ask about my other 2 brothers that she is also alienated from, she doesn't ask about my brothers family.

  she doesn't talk about the jw/org either.

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  days of future passed

  It could be just your mom's particular hall that is ramping it up. In the hall I grew up in, they were very attentive to any change or announcement from the Wt. Maybe 7 or so years ago, (I can't remember exactly what was said) the society made a change. The elders in the hall, from the podium, made comments that made it seem Arrmegeddon would happen in a month or two. One elder who had bought a house in a foreign country, said he doubted he would be able to live in it for more than 2 weeks before A happened. One elder shouted out from the audience "Come Lord Jesus, Come!" Bible studies at the hall, were freaking out. One young man was almost in tears because he wasn't baptized. Freaked me out to.

  For weeks after, talks were given that had that "it's almost here, what are you doing in your life?" flavor. One brother (I could have killed him for doing this) pretended to read a letter from the WT saying that this was the last time they could probably talk to the congregation cause the tribulation was starting. Dead silence in the hall. Then he admitted that it wasn't real, but what if it was?

  I thought this was what all the other halls did. My sister later told me, no, nothing with such urgency was discussed in her hall. She couldn't figure out what I was talking about.

  So maybe your mom has an uber hall, or one where the elders like to nip at the heels of everyone to keep them coming to the hall.

  It probably makes her feel like all those years mean something and she is in the know.
  
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  Do they even realise how disgustingly immoral this is and how badly it reflects on the God they worship?

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  found this little gem when going through the daily texts.... so let me get this straight.... god knows your suffering really badly and wants to help.

  he knows you feel like you're at your limit, but he also knows that you are not really - that you can handle some more suffering.

  so instead of helping, he "patiently" waits till you are at your absolute limit, and only then does he help!?.

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  days of future passed

  That text reminds me of a Watchtower cover someone just posted recently. It had a starving African child on the front that was little more than skin and bones. The heading? Why is God patient - or something to that effect. In this case, the child's suffering isn't enough for God to act on I guess. Just a little more starving ......
  
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  "Slaving For Jehovah Is Great, Because Your Life Won't Go Wrong." Sigh...

  by Sorry in

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  granted, i'm a pimo status, so i normally just play on my cell phone and ignore everything during meetings and assemblies.

  but at the assembly this past weekend, my ears were pricked for two experiences of two sisters dedicating themselves to pioneering.

  this was probably because i was extremely freaked out by both of them.

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  days of future passed

  So if they are total slaves, who is paying for their rent and food? Not "The Master"
  
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  Reveal News Article: Jehovah’s Witnesses double down on Scripture used to ignore abuse by Trey Bundy

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-double-down-on-scripture-used-to-ignore-abuse/.

  jehovah’s witnesses double down on scripture used to ignore abuse.

  by trey bundy / november 9, 2017. gary breaux, a senior jehovah's witness official, speaks on the religion’s official internet video channel.

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  days of future passed

  The broadcast by the WT concerning the 2 witness rule, was for reassurance - for the child molesters that is.

  Imagine a jewelry store that stated if only one employee saw another employee steal jewelry and that person didn't confess, nothing was to be done. No police or anything. Since they didn't have video cameras, there wouldn't be any proof and nothing could be done.

  Imagine advertising that fact to each new employee.

  The WT is advertising the very same thing. Nothing will be done to child molesters unless they confess or someone happens to catch them at it. No worries for the molester unless they are incredibly stupid.
  
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  Understanding Armageddon

  by Jayk in

  1. watchtower
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  so will armageddon be the biblical one we read about or is it probably going to be a government ban on christians that we will perceive as armageddon?

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  days of future passed

  Although I don't believe the prophecies in the bible are true, in Daniel and in Revelation, it is true religion that is attacked first.
  Daniel says "truth is thrown to the ground - dashing of the power of the holy ones to pieces etc" these holy ones are the "two witnesses" that are in Revelation 11:7. When they are killed, who is looking at them? Nations of all people. If you were to ask anyone (even witnesses) what outstanding things happened in the 19th century, this event would never be mentioned. Such an amazing event according to the bible, that it is supposed to be a big witness before the end - and no one knows about it.....
  

  WT says that happened in 1916-1919 when they got thrown in jail. Except if you look at Rev. 11:7 it's the beast that ascends out the abyss that attacks them. And what is the only beast that ascends out of an abyss? The United Nations that was reactivated long time after 1919 according to WT.

  They know they have it wrong but can't do anything about it but hopes no one notices or has time to research it. So don't bother about Armaggedon according to WT or the Bible for that matter.
  
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  Im new to the site. 28 years old, over 10 in exile. This is my story

  by Jayk in

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  2. experiences

  it's bitter sweet to find a site like this..i was born in the truth.

  when i was 16 i given the option to stop going.

  father and mothers family are both witnesses.

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  days of future passed

  When you are born in the "truth" it can be hard to find a direction to go in when you leave that part of your life behind. Harder when you are older, at least for me. It's nice you are still young, so hang in there!